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Baseball Team Owner Withdraws Ballpark Proposal

David Martin says he will take his minor league baseball plan to another city.

Professional baseball missed its shot at Clawson.

Team owner David Martin said Wednesday morning he will no longer pursue a proposal to revamp City Park for minor league baseball games.

Martin's decision came after residents and commissioners shot down the proposal at a contentious public hearing on Tuesday evening that attracted more than 100 people.

"I'm not going to keep throwing money and pursuing something that is an uphill battle," Martin told the Clawson Patch. "I thought the efforts to block it were somewhat strong."

Martin said he will take his plan to other cities with hopes that they will be more welcoming. 

At least 25 residents alternately praised or voiced concerns with the plan disrupting the peace in the community.

At end of the four-hour long public hearing, the Planning Commission voted to table a decision, citing a number of gray areas in the team owner's plan.

"We'd be foolish to vote on this without having all the information," said commissioner Rocco Romano, who spoke against the proposal.

Martin, a former Clawson resident, would have had to resubmit his site plan and address details on parking and traffic flow. However, Martin said he was on a tight deadline with plans to have the park ready for the 2012 season.

“We are disappointed, but on the flip side of the coin, it is the citizens' city," Martin said. "We want to come to a city that we feel welcome to and somewhere that welcomes business and welcomes investments."

Many residents had concerns, such as the disruption to the community, the serving of alcohol, parking and traffic in neighborhoods and safety. Many of those issues had not been fully addressed.

"The devils are in the details," resident Deb Wooley said during public comment. "I don't wanna have to fight those details later."  

Martin said he realizes many residents supported the plan, but those opposed were the loudest.

Resident Darlene McDaniel said Tuesday night she believed this was a great opportunity for a small town.

"I can't believe how many people in Clawson are afraid of change," said McDaniel who lives near the park on Elmwood.

Several Clawson Patch Facebook fans agreed it was a missed opportunity for the city.

"He had to do what was best for his business after Clawson decided to do what was not best for our city," Tamara Macks Shepard said in a post.

While the Planning Commission voted to postpone their final decision at the public hearing, commissioners were already speaking out against it.

"This would disrupt the quiet evenings in the yards," commissioner Bill Tite said.

Romano agreed it would not be good for the city.

"I'm totally against this," Romano said, adding that he had concerns about commercial use, safety and alcohol near .

george gray August 26, 2011 at 08:33 PM
you are in favor only of dog runs
mike smith August 26, 2011 at 08:38 PM
have you been yo a planning cmmission meeting?, were you at the last, I was there and did ot recall you standing up and identifying yourself
george gray August 27, 2011 at 01:37 AM
I cant buy your house i already have one in Clawson. yes i did write to the City manager and some council people. i sure hope Scott is wrong, but it is interesting that you seem to know all te families kids etc.
george gray August 27, 2011 at 01:38 AM
Are you kidding? There must only you that is proud of the instigator
canseeallsides August 27, 2011 at 07:39 AM
This story from another town has a familiar ring to it. http://www.leadertelegram.com/news/front_page/article_9f6ba174-cfa0-11e0-b22e-001cc4c03286.html Businesses (at least baseball businesses) want our parks. In my opinion, this affirms our community's response and our planning commission's decision. It's just not a good precedent. "That's the message they sent loud and clear - it's unacceptable to have a for-profit (business housed in the park)," (the business man making the proposal) said of Wednesday's 12-0 vote by the Eau Claire Waterways and Parks Commission against the project.
Cynthia Resh August 27, 2011 at 12:40 PM
The proposed site was a beautiful venue itself--but not in the right location for our city park. We need to seriously proceed with a plan to beautify our "GEM" and provide our children & grandchildren with a decent updated & improved ball field. Our park needs vast improvements that need to be done. The amenities that attracted many of us 40 years ago, need to be put back into the community to attract the younger families that are seeking the same things we did. I support ANY bond issues or millage for improvements to my city park. We can do it! Cynthia Resh
mike smith August 27, 2011 at 03:00 PM
In Wisconsin?
mike smith August 27, 2011 at 03:02 PM
then a millage is the only way to improve the park, no one is going give money to us to fix the park. I bet a maillage is being planned. Since the city was aware of the bad conditons in a public hearing they will have to do something about it...
Denise Seipke August 27, 2011 at 03:31 PM
Patti, I have a serious problem with your comments about Michael J. He is a tax-paying resident, which gives him the right to be at every City meeting and function. He should be applauded for his concern, not belittled. And if, in fact, you sit on a board, you are a representative of this City. As such, to speak of any of its residents in such a fashion is totally out of line, and suggesting people move from their homes because they disagree with you is totally unacceptable as well.
Denise Seipke August 27, 2011 at 04:35 PM
Patti, I don't know who Michael J is; frankly I didn't know the majority of people at the Planning Board meeting. With the exception of my involvement in the library, I have spent the majority of the last 6 years caring for my Alzheimers oldies and dying oldies. Michael J is probably a lot older than me, as he has time to follow city issues and may well be retired. But I respect for others' rights to voice their opinions is something I feel strongly about.
Carl N August 28, 2011 at 02:04 AM
Group hug proposed! Anyone in?
David Mudge August 28, 2011 at 01:22 PM
Good luck with that Carl, lol. It is obvious that some people will not be sending a few other people a Christmas card this year.
Patti August 29, 2011 at 05:54 PM
Well it seems there may be 2 Pattis , I'm not a GRANDMA and I don't have kids old enough to have a wife working at the city ,and my husband does not work for the city! I'm believing what I've read , you have too much time on your hands ,I'm done on here ,next thing I know you' ll know where I live.
Patti August 30, 2011 at 10:18 PM
Well Micheal , I don't think any clarifying was to be done here, I don't know who you are , nor do I care to.I'm not into the bickering back and forth over any one in this city , I feel EVERYONE has the right to voice their opinion , with that said, I myself find it creapy that YOU know so much about her, where she lives , her neighhbor that picks garbage , where her husband works and her daughter in law ,or how long this person has been on a board, Why is that?And why would one even care ? Oh never mind it's none of my bushiness.I find that very disturbing . As far as my name goes , I feel I need to explain , my sister and I were named after our aunts, my sisters name is Clare ,I have a cousin named Edith.
Debbie Bechtold Faria September 05, 2011 at 06:25 PM
All the negativity is unbelievable! I, like Sharon O'Dell, am a CHS grad, class of 1972. Some of my fondest memories are of times spent at Clawson Park. It is sad to hear that it is in such disrepair. But, like Michael J and John Morse said money can be raised! Letters to Alumni is an excellent idea, special events, even the July 4th celebration could become a fund raiser with proceeds going to Park Re-hab. I belong to the Sertoma Club service organization & every yr we raise tens of thousands $ to support our community. Craft fair-pay to rent space, weekend celebration with music & entertainment, sell food, beer & wine-proceeds to Park Re-hab. Of course it is all hard work, nothing that is worthwile comes without work. Clawson Jaycees or Rotary Club, whatever service orgs you have should put their heads, hearts and hands together and come up with some ideas. Good Luck, it can be done! Debbie Bechtold Faria
Debbie Bechtold Faria September 05, 2011 at 06:45 PM
Maybe they should make it illegal to have dogs run loose in the park & also require owners to clean up after their dogs. And fine them for not doing so. Or better yet Ban Dogs from the Park.
Debbie Bechtold Faria September 05, 2011 at 06:59 PM
Chris Zimmel, I agreee totally!! Why put such a ball park smack dab in the middle of a residential area? It's crazy, if the K-Mart location is empty it is a much more appropriate location.
mike smith September 10, 2011 at 03:08 AM
Well Well the council people have spoken, they hid behind their little desks and waited to make a statement after the fact., Palmer and Airrisos have decided they did not want the ball team so they come out with a gutless statement that they opposed something that was already done. I wonder how they would have handled the vote if it was approved. People of clawson I feel for us. I read that a group of people are going to go out and the fix park, I am sure if they try to do that no one will agree on anything, and nothing wil get done, have your checkbook ready it will be tax time. I read an article in the macomb Daily that mr hackel was shocked to hear that Clawson turned down an opportunity. I wonder how many people are laughing at us for being so stupid. We will always be a third rate city
Darlene McDaniel September 10, 2011 at 11:29 PM
I agree with you 100% Mike.....as far as I am concerned I'll do my best to defeat a millage to fix the park.....when it could have been something amazing for zero, zip, nothing....not real impressed with the 2 council members who opposed it and certainly will remember their names when it comes to re election....again I'm so sick of the people in this town who are so afraid of change.....especially when this change to me would have been one for the good!!!
mike smith September 12, 2011 at 09:08 PM
Waterford is a community that is worse off tht Clawson. Spending 500,00 on the park, what did they do? man i sometimes can understand you, fodder? you mean garage?
mike smith September 12, 2011 at 09:09 PM
then change it, you seem you have a hadle on everything stop writing and do something
micheal j September 23, 2011 at 12:42 AM
The only way to fix the park is by a millage, I purpose the city gets on with it and tax us that is the only way it will get cleaned up
Darlene McDaniel September 23, 2011 at 01:26 AM
If it passes.......
Kurt Hack September 23, 2011 at 02:34 PM
No way it will pass. Keep in mind that the Headlee override is coming up for renewal for 2013, without which the City will have much larger problems than just the park.
michael J September 23, 2011 at 04:09 PM
Kurt: as of now no Tax, 502 "tax by pass" Donations, B.Foley, took 6 months to raise the money, for a 10 teams up to 4 different sports, all weather fld it is in and being used, they have 65 rental dates/contests already on the books. (pee wee in the morning, hs, soccer, then 2 football games, just change the flags and goals, Clawson is still having one meeting per month, for over approx 9 months, I bet Foley's parents met 2 - 3 times a week. I have a photo essay of the build, will send by e mail, I also have other info, that wont be shared on here. The original michael J. DON'T be confused with Michael j, or Micheal, or all the other mispellings, did I send the pic's to you before? I will ck. laugh at the headlee renewal, that only keeps us at 1 day closed.......... another words, it has to be that and more, or put us out of our misery, Main St. North, goes to troy, and the main st. so. goes to R O. MAKES SENSE, since Troy shares the same street, where SM lives, perhaps we could raise school of choice, to 60% from the 33 it is now of the district. what does the School dist. pay for, as far as fld rentals, etc. oh well.......... it was a rainy day, thought I can hear a storm brewing. be good,
michael J September 23, 2011 at 11:39 PM
KURT I did send you some of the pictures, the headlee over ride, will be that and perhaps 3 x's that,, or perhaps even way more we are at 4 days, open do we need more then 1 day open, or 2? one department person and a kelly girl when needed. I don't know, but we don't need full service with all the tech. out there. we do need to be progressive. early by outs, and so on.
michael J October 12, 2011 at 03:37 PM
Same questions, different local,, diff.country 48 dates, will tell you any thing, will share the field w/? need the beer, as long as I can cover their signs on my dates, oldest stadium, needs score board, stadium in residential area (?) it is downtown, PREXISTING. Hummmmmmm we were oh so right, but the money "promiced" caused a stampede driven by illrepute. the other side of sports by a desperate man. yes London ONT. C C gave in and ok'd a ONE yr w/4 opt. Dave Martin wanted 5 guart. The citizens were skepitcal, of any thing that , just appears, with hallos,and he is the Music man, all is right, Now he says 3500 for attend. it was 1500 here............. well there is plenty on the web........ well read one of them for your self ....... as long as he can sell beer on the third base side, he will share the other (first base stand) w/other team OH my, conflict where ever he goes. this is good reading, cause not even macomb co. and all that land could set him up., please read, and compare. w/what we went thru. http://www.lfpress.com/sports/columnists/morris_dalla_costa/2011/09/28/18754551.html
micheal j October 15, 2011 at 03:00 AM
mJ stop pretending you are me
michael J November 06, 2011 at 02:25 PM
Fellow Land Owners: A letter was sent to a select few (150?) to keep the attendance low."Large Lots" owners were notified of this meeting, but not the owners along side or in back, of such. & not ALL large lot owners by the way. If you remember the emotion filled meeting in August, when tax payers were shocked that a decision was to be nade that night. THERE will be NO decision, info only, they need to hear from you. Why so there will be no emotion, but an intelligent and thourough implanting of changes in the zoning ordinances, do you like Clawson look and feel, it's different personalities in the different quad's (sections) Do you want a high rise next to you? 8 condo's stuffed into 3 large lots, perhaps you do. The concern by some is that all ppl should have a say, not wake up one morning with a bulldozer a few ft. from your foundation, cause a large lot owner sold out, and there was no ord's to protect the ones left behind. Maybe that is what you want, e.g. 216 w baker, & washington, a Old farm house very stoic facing W B. double lot, tear it down, change the address to Washington, and all of a sudden you have changed the neighborhood's looks, by putting in 3 houses, or 6 condo's etc, no longer peacefull, or perhpas your all for building on every sq. ft. you need to be heard, right now it is mostly about Hendricksen, east end. A developer does not pay top dollar for property, so selling to a single private owner, might bring you morer $$, show up be heard.
mike smith November 29, 2011 at 10:24 PM
mj your attitude stinks toward everything

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